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This topic can be such a mixed bag. I was in college when the first groups in college were brave enough to take up guitars and begin singing folk gospel. I loved it, but there was a real fire storm from the elders upholding the status quo. Several gospel groups came for programs that were held in the school gym because the administration decided they could not use the church. On the other hand, a world famous organist was allowed to use the church organ for a totally secular program. As Solomen said, "There is nothing new under the sun." I now find myself being a member of the church upholding the status quo. While in college (not quite back in the dark ages), I remember discussions about how many of "us" would end up leaving the church because it was no longer applicable to our lives -- and how "the administration" needed to change for the church to be relevent in our lives.
And now our own children are trying to tell us the same thing we were once telling our parents.
BC - before church - I grew up in a very nasty neighborhood and did my share of dancing, though drugs and alcohol were out of the question because they scared the wits out of me. But I have to admit the correlation between the sycapated beat and a previous life. Music does affect the emotions, and the soul. However, I cannot expect my daughter to get a spiritual blessing out of the same music that I listen to. For one thing, she can't stand the traditional folk music I still seriously enjoy. We can have a meeting of minds, however, over the lighter classical music and some of the milder contemporary Christian. Personally, I have to draw a serious like at "christian" rock. I find it offensive on a personal level.
But we also must remember that Psalms talks about praising God with trumpets and clashing symbols. I have a feeling the temple music could get a little boisterous at times, ... And I have never been able to sit still while listening to really good music. My own bias, but I don't think the angel choir is going to be standing in formation like soldiers, either.
We need to give each other room to grow.
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DEC-27-04
11:46:52
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I think we can all understand and relate to just how powerful music can be. Satan certainly knows this being a master musician himself. I think he attacks musicians even as much as He does political leaders. If he can gain power over these people he can rule the masses and he does. Therefore, It is critical not to judge a musician. Pray for him. Love him. And let God do the rest. God will bless you both if you do. And do not forget to always pray for your leaders.
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DEC-9-04
0:48:14
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Music is a form of praise and worship. All music has rhythm. My concern is that I should be able to discern sacred from secular without straining to hear lyrics. There is a very distinct difference between gospel music (traditional and Afro-centric) and R&B. The distinction is clear to those who are used to it, but not to those that are new to it. I suppose the same is true of other styles. I personally do not see the distinction between heavy metal rock music and rock gospel.
I do draw the line, however, when so-called gospel artists mix words of praise with profanity, as the artist Usher admitted on national television that he does in many of his pieces. There is no praise, no worship, when the name of Almighty God is in the same sentence with words that should not be uttered from the mouths of Christians.
The purpose of religious music is to lift us up, not to bring God down to our level. Music being what it is, involves not only the intellectual but also the emotional parts of the psyche, and there is nothing wrong with this, since even Jesus expressed emotion during his sojourn on this earth (he cried at the tomb of Lazarus and when looking over Jerusalem; he got angry at the money changers in the temple).
Music will forever be a controversial subject, particularly among Christians. Cultural diversity, upbringing, and changing times cause us all to have varying preferences. As a child growing up, I remember my sister and I singing the gospel song "Lead Me, Guide Me" in church one Sabbath. Several people reported to my parents that we were singing rock 'n roll in the church. This occurred in the Caribbean. It would not have been an issue in a Black American church (which is where we actually learned the song!). My parents believed that only Del Delker and George Beverly Shea should be heard in the home, together with hymns from the hymnal. I do not ascribe to this thinking, and thus I listen to a lot of artists such as Richard Smallwood, Donnie McClurkin, Walter Hawkins, etc. However, if the lyrics do not mention the name of Jesus, and if they can be thought of as love songs to anyone (such as some so-called "inspirational" music, which sounds sacred, but without changing a word, can easily be sung as a romantic song to a person), then I draw the line. If the music has words, they should clearly denote who is being worshipped.
There is a place even in the lives of Christians for music that is sacred and music that is secular. A romantic song has its place. God invented romance when He made our first parents. Children learn easier when things are set to music ... it helps us to remember, and this has its place. Songs about life in general have their place (like Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On"), and sacred music has its place. We cannot live in an all-or-none society. It borders on the fanatical.
Just a note: Several years ago (in the 70s), the traditional version of "Amazing Grace" was on the top of the pop charts for several weeks. It was played in every bar and on every radio station, so I must disagree with DebMC about not having the same music in the bar as in church. I have heard small parts of the Hallelujah chorus used on television commercials where no praise to God is being considered at all. It does not mean that the Hallelujah chorus should not be sung in church, but hearing it just might remind you of the commercial! We have to be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
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DEC-2-04
15:13:48
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I completely disagree with Truheart, God loves all kinds of music because he created it! There is no mention of SINGING in heaven or on earth untill Genesis 4 at the birth of Jubal. God does not look for "tradition" in worship but passion its not about how many hymns we know its about bringing Glory to His name, worship is not only singing it is a lifestyle.
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NOV-21-04
22:55:4
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I came out of the bars and into the church. Any music with a beat that reminds me of dancing in a bar does not belong in our churches. I come to church to praise God not to think about doing the bump and grind with some man on the dance from. 9 out of 10 new songs in our churches do not lift your mind to God. The test I use when listening to a song is: Where is your mind right now?
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